Las Vegas Sun

January 7, 2009

STATE BUDGET:

Lawmakers look to public for ideas

Buckley, Horsford host town hall forums on funding shortfall

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In a town hall meeting Thursday at Irwin Molasky Middle School in Las Vegas, Democrats, from left, Senate Minority Leader Steven Horsford, state Senate candidate Allison Copening and state Sen. Mike Schneider listen to constituents’ suggestions on how to lead the state out of its budget crisis.

Mon, Oct 6, 2008 (2 a.m.)

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Assembly Speaker Barbara Buckley speaks at a forum last Monday at Spring Valley High. The Democrat is mulling a run for governor in '10.

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State Sen. Steven Horsford talks Thursday during a town hall meeting. The usefulness of soliciting possible ways to boost the state tax base has been questioned by a budget expert who helped write a detailed report on the subject in 2003.

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Deborah Jackson speaks last Monday at a forum in which she raised the idea of implementing a state lottery to boost revenue.

Two powerful Democratic lawmakers are gathering ideas from the public on how to fix the state budget.

The opportunity to speak about the budget crisis, which has cut funding for education and other services, played well with the few hundred people who showed up last week at the public forums hosted separately by Assembly Speaker Barbara Buckley and state Senate Minority Leader Steven Horsford.

“I think this town hall meeting, I was hungry for it,” Louise Helton said to applause. “I wish all legislators would do this, I really do. I think it’s a great start.”

But based on the citizen input, it’s unclear what ideas will emerge that can be taken to the 2009 Legislature. Many of the ideas have been proposed before, only to go down to defeat at the hands of powerful interests.

One solution the public put forth frequently won’t likely be on the table when lawmakers convene in February.

“We have the 46th-lowest tax burden” in the nation,” said Kay Godbey, before suggesting the state adopt a sales tax on services and additional mining taxes (which would require amending the state constitution) and eliminate depreciation on real property values for property tax purposes, among other ideas.

“How about an extraction tax on gold, silver, platinum, uranium,” added Denise Kelley. “That’s what you can get done.”

Yet before holding his town hall meeting, Horsford made it clear he would not support new taxes in a bad economy.

As for Buckley, when asked whether she would consider raising taxes, should residents call for it during the public forums, she replied that “all ideas” would be “considered.” Some read that as a no.

Gov. Jim Gibbons has vowed to veto any tax increase, saying Nevada has a spending problem.

Resident Syd Rudich noted the tough position Buckley, who is considering a run for governor in 2010, would face in advocating higher taxes.

“When you mention taxes, everyone goes running,” he said.

At her forum, Buckley walked the group through a step-by-step PowerPoint presentation that demonstrated how poorly the state ranks in many categories.

• 46th from the lowest in the rate of high school dropouts.

• Last in infants and toddlers fully immunized.

• First in suicides of those 65 and older.

The problems are well known.

In policy circles, at least, so are some of the solutions.

Five years ago, Guy Hobbs helped write the “book” on the state’s budget system, on how it collects taxes, where its revenue pitfalls lie and what the state might do to fix them. An economic consultant and former finance chief for Clark County, Hobbs headed a task force formed by then-Gov. Kenny Guinn after the state hit a relatively minor budgetary bump.

The way to increase the state’s tax base was painstakingly detailed in the 2003 report, Hobbs said.

“We know which ones would take a legislative act or constitutional modification. There are pages and pages of revenue alternatives used elsewhere in the country or in the world. We ranked them based on principles of equitability, stability, predictability. We used every measure we could possibly think of,” he said, . “I tend to get a little frustrated when talking about it. We’ve already written the manual on this.”

A few of the ideas — including a tax increase on gross payrolls and on real estate transfers — became law and the state saw a revenue increase of about $800 million.

A major part of the new revenue was consumed meeting demands for services exacted by the state’s skyrocketing population.

Today, population growth has undoubtedly slowed with the economic downturn.

As Buckley pointed out, however, the state still lags in almost every measure of education, health and public safety. She has talked about shifting around money, encouraging green businesses to move here, and prioritizing spending. Her mantra is that Nevada took decades to get to this point, and it won’t turn around overnight.

She also said she values the ideas of Nevada residents. It’s why she’s holding the town hall meetings, the next one in Reno tonight.

In just a few months, speakers at these meetings will learn how well Buckley was listening.

Discussion: 11 comments so far…

  1. Here's an idea. We have a governor, which is supposed to translate as "leader." Our "leader" should be leading the way to finding new industries and revenue sources for the state he is supposed to be leading. That's what he was elected for. That's what he is paid to do.

  2. Start with a severe crackdown on tax delinquents.

  3. Impeach Gibbons; then make him pay his property taxes!

  4. I've got an even better idea. SPENDING LIMITS: http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/30482999.htm...

    That will solve the budget problem.

    As for educational problems, well, the government will never solve those they will only make the problems worse.

    We need serious education reform: http://npri.org/publications/no-magic-be...

  5. Why is the democrats only answer to every problem more taxes and more spending. If Nevada is the 46th lowest tax burden in the state, we need to examine the other 4 and find out what we are doing wrong. No matter how much money a democrat gets they spend more than they have and cry for more. It never ends.

  6. Yeah, like how Bush lowered taxes and then got us into 2 wars. Brilliant. How much are we in debt now?

  7. Simple,
    Cut more wasteful spending. Start with the people at DMV, base the firings on attitude. Put Gibbons salary to part-time, (since he only works part-time anyway) In fact, adjust all politician salaries they should be doing their job for "love of country" anyway, especially democrats, If you purchased an investment home in 02 or 03 and sold it in 06 why not do the stand up thing and give half the profit to the state, (right),
    Lets do fundraisers!, car washes, street light pan handling, bake sales, etc.

  8. In my business I have had no choice but to cut the most costly item - Payroll

  9. Yeah fire DMV workers and privatize the DMV!

    Oklahoma did it. Wait times at the privatized DMVs are 5 to 10 minutes, not the 30 minutes just to get your stupid number we have here in Vegas.

  10. The peoples elected HOA advocate, kowtow casino boy and buckley....

    The only thing worse is Gibbons, Townsend and Beers.

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